On Wednesday, a former Air Force officer and intelligence official testified under oath concerning the recovery of “non-human” biologics from wrecked planes.

UAP (f.k.a. UFO) whistleblower David Grusch was one of three men who testified and took questions on Wednesday before a House Oversight subcommittee on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications for National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.

At the hearing, Ryan Graves, executive director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, and David Favor, a former commanding officer in the United States Navy, also testified.

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“As I’ve already stated publicly in my NewsNation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah,” Grusch said when questioned about remains purportedly retrieved after a crash.

Grusch appeared on NewsNation in June, stating that a government task group focused on the UAP issue had previously been refused access to a “broad crash retrieval program.”

During the hearing on Wednesday, Grusch was asked whether the biologics were human or “non-human,” and he confirmed that they were the latter.

“Non-human,” he stated, referring to the evaluation of those with intimate knowledge of the program who he spoke with and who are still on the program.

Grusch was also questioned regarding the existence of “actual evidence” of “extraterrestrial” intelligence, and pressed to identify when such evidence was originally obtained.

“I like to use the term ‘non-human,'” Grusch said in response to the inquiry at first. “I don’t like to donate at first because it keeps the aperture open….” Certainly, as I’ve previously stated publicly, the 1930s.”

It’s impossible for longtime UAP/UFO watchers not to be enthusiastic about important aspects of Wednesday’s session. Specifically, as has been extensively noted, it is worth remembering the fact that “non-human” concerns of this nature are now being discussed under oath.

Notably, Tom DeLonge and To the Stars were both mentioned during Wednesday’s hearing, with Fravor crediting the organization for having “pressed the issue with leading Industry experts and USG officials, worked with Leslie Keane, Ralph Blumenthal, and Helene Cooper to publish the articles in the [New York Times] in [December] 2017 admitting the [U.S. government] was looking at UAPs, and removed the Stigma of the UFO topic, which led to us being here today.”

DeLonge, who recently wrapped up the North American leg of blink-182’s classic lineup reunion tour with a gig in Nashville, responded by referencing a term familiar to longtime fans of the band: “Tom was right.”


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